{"id":13339,"date":"2003-10-01T06:13:40","date_gmt":"2003-10-01T11:13:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/?p=13339"},"modified":"2024-07-19T20:01:09","modified_gmt":"2024-07-20T00:01:09","slug":"script-review-time-bandits-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2003\/10\/01\/script-review-time-bandits-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Script Review TIME BANDITS II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13342\" title=\"TimeBandits2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits2.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits2-300x145.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>By Charles McKeown<br \/>\nSecond Draft September 4, 1996<\/p>\n<p>In 1981 Monty Python member Terry Gilliam released <strong>Time Bandits<\/strong>, his first      major step away from his work with the British comedy troupe and a film that      distinguished himself as a fantasist whose work demanded attention. A dark      comic fantasy, <strong>Time Bandits<\/strong> featured six dwarves who felt that their work      for the Supreme Being in helping to shape Creation has gone unappreciated.      Stealing a map that will allow them to travel through time, the group, along      with 11-year old school boy Kevin, find themselves on the run through      history, chased by the Supreme Being and manipulated by the machinations of      Evil. The film was a surprise hit and left many wondering whether they would      see further adventures of the Time Bandits. Well, over a decade and a half      later, they almost did.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-13343\" title=\"TimeBandits\" src=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBandits-300x160.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a>Time      Bandits II<\/strong> has its origin in early 1996. Gilliam was between film      projects and was looking for something to do. A phone discussion with his      occasional writing collaborator Charles McKeown (<strong>Brazil <\/strong>(1985), <strong> The Adventures of Baron Munchausen <\/strong>(1988)) sparked the idea, which the      two expanded into a full screenplay. As Gilliam explained on August 12, 1996      on Monty Python&#8217;s PythOnline bulletin boards to a poster who asked if there      would ever be a sequel to the original film-<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> Nicole,      Funny you should have this odd craving for some sort of extension to <strong>Time      Bandits<\/strong>, I had the same craving a couple of months ago and immediately      called my old buddy, Charles McKeown, to see if he too was feeling this,      clearly universal, craving. Not at all surprisingly, he was suffering the      same knowing at his guts. So we had a little natter and came up with a      thought or two that might help put the world at ease again. The outcome of      all this is that we have been busily scribbling a <strong>Time Bandits II<\/strong> script.      The strain has been such that Charles has taken off to Italy for a holiday.      But there is now a script and all we need is for someone to cough up a few      million. You don&#8217;t happen to have a few to spare, do you? As it is now in      the hands of the fine people that run Hollywood studios I have no idea when      your craving will be assuaged. But hope and Crosby spring eternal. Yours in      limbo, Terry G.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> Between      Gilliam&#8217;s posting and September, McKeown made another past through the      script. This second draft, dated September 4, 1996, opens with two dwarves,      Mox and her friend Tangle, working in the bureaucracy that runs all of      Creation, shredding files on animals as they become extinct. They are      extremely busy. The two overhear a conversation between the Supreme Being      and his Supreme Opposite Number who are planning to turn off creation at the      end of the millennium. (The Supreme Opposite Number is a hand puppet that      the Supreme Being talks to. The puppet talks in its own voice, though. It&#8217;s      a bit reminiscent of alternative cartoonist Evan Dorkin&#8217;s &#8220;Devil Puppet&#8221;      strips.) Mox decides she and Tangle need to hunt out her father Strutter,      one of the original Time Bandits, to see if he has any suggestions on how to      stop this from happening. They find the remains of the Time Bandits out of      work and scrounging for a living. Strutter (Malcolm Dixon) is joined by      Fidgit (Kenny Baker) and Og (Mike Edmonds) and Og&#8217;s son Tubby. Another      former time bandit, Wally (Jack Purvis) is despised by the group as he has      moved into Creation&#8217;s Upper Management and is in charge of the Accounting      Department.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsStrutter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-13344\" title=\"TimeBanditsStrutter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsStrutter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"182\" height=\"284\" \/><\/a>(Note: The      characters of Randall and Vermin from the first film are mentioned in      passing, but no indication is given as to their fate. In reality, David      Rappaport, who played Randall, committed suicide in 1990. Tiny Ross, who      played Vermin, had also passed on. Jack Purvis&#8217;s part was written especially      for him, knowing that he was paralyzed from a car accident and in a wheel      chair.)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> The group      decides they need to see exactly how creation was saved from being shut off      at the end of the first millennium in order to save it this time around.      They go to the Supreme Being&#8217;s Treasury, steal a key from Wally and get the      map that the Bandits used in the first film. Whilst rummaging about in the      treasury, they accidentally knock over the Ark of the Covenant (Which McKeown notes should look like the one in <strong>Raiders Of The Lost Ark<\/strong>),      summoning the guards. Finding some time portals (lying in a stack like panes      of glass), the group make their escape into history.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> The      group&#8217;s first stop is the bedroom of Polly, an 11 year old American girl,      who spends more time in Internet chat rooms than with her working mother or      stay at home, laid off father. With the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse hot      on their trail, the bandits and Polly set off through history on a trip      similar to the first film. They encounter a cleanliness obsessed pirate      captain, inadvertently participate in Joan of Arc&#8217;s capture and discover      that Julius Caesar&#8217;s assassination was faked so he could get away from his      shrewish wife Calpurnia.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> The script      is fun and might have made an enjoyable movie except for the fact that it      echoes the first film too closely. The bandits&#8217; first stop after stealing      the map is again a child&#8217;s bedroom. The Pirate Captain and the Joan of Arc      bit both feel similar to the Robin Hood and Napoleon segments of the      original, not to mention that Joan of Arc had already appeared in another      time travel comedy, <strong>Bill And Ted&#8217;s Excellent Adventure<\/strong> (1988).      Polly&#8217;s interaction with Calpurnia echoes the relationship Kevin and  \tAgamemnon shared in the first film. The script does introduce a neat idea      where the Bandits travel back in time for just a day and encounter their      earlier selves. However, when the two groups get separated, one expects to      see the second group again, but they never reappear.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsWally1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-13345\" title=\"TimeBanditsWally1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsWally1-300x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsWally1-300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsWally1.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Finally      the Bandits discover that they are the ones who saved Creation at the end of      the first millennium and so they have to try again. Just before the switch      to turn off Creation is thrown, the real Supreme Being returns, having been      delayed while measuring infinity. The other Supreme Being (the one with the      hand puppet) was just his servant who had gone crazy trying to keep things      going for his boss. Polly is returned to her bedroom, where her parents wake  \ther      just in time for the millennium New Year&#8217;s Eve countdown. Downstairs, she      meets her mother&#8217;s new boss, a man who looks suspiciously like the real      Supreme Being. . .<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> One theme      McKeown seems to explore in the script is the parent-child relationship. Mox      seems to be embarrassed by her father, but over the course of their      adventures they come to understand each other better. Polly seems to have      the same problem with her parents and comes to a similar happy ending with      them as well. (No exploding parental units this time!) Unfortunately, this      is still a weak element in this draft and hopefully would have been      strengthened had the project continued forward.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> While the      first half of the script sets the story solidly in motion, the second half      contains a few logic problems, specifically when the time bandits run into      themselves one day in the past. The first group successfully stops their      past selves from making a mistake before the two groups interact for a few      scenes. Don&#8217;t even think about cause and effect in this sequence as it&#8217;s      thrown out the window. Also, the script implies that the Supreme Being has      been away for more than a millennium, leaving his assistant in charge. Are      we to assume, then, that the Supreme Being who appears at the end of the      first film is actually the crazed assistant as he is revealed in this      script? If so, why does he appear to be sane at that end of the first film      when we are shown he was insane back at the turn of the first millennium?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> But <strong> Time Bandits II<\/strong>&#8216;s biggest failing is that it doesn&#8217;t feel like it fits      in with the first film at some level. Gilliam has stated that <strong>Time      Bandits<\/strong> is part of a thematic trilogy about Dreamers, specifically the      Dreamer as a youth. (<strong>Brazil<\/strong> is about the Dreamer at the middle of      life and <strong>Baron Munchausen<\/strong> is the Dreamer at old age.) But beyond the      parent-child conflict subtext of the script, there&#8217;s no deeper theme to the      sequel and perhaps it&#8217;s for that reason that it just doesn&#8217;t seem like a      worthy successor to the first film.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsFidget.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-13346\" title=\"TimeBanditsFidget\" src=\"http:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsFidget-300x209.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsFidget-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/10\/TimeBanditsFidget.jpg 542w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>For a      while there looked to be some interest in the script, though no definite      word was forthcoming. Rumors circulated that Kenny Baker&#8217;s son and Jack      Purvis&#8217; daughter were both in consideration for roles (Tubby and Mox?), an      extension of the script&#8217;s theme of parent\/child relations perhaps.      <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20220812095110\/http:\/\/www.smart.co.uk\/dreams\/home.htm\">Dreams:      The Terry Gilliam Fanzine<\/a> website quotes the director in July 1997 as      having discussed the project with Canada&#8217;s Paragon Entertainment. &#8220;A company      that bought out Handmade Films (The producers of the original <strong>Time      Bandits<\/strong>) were talking to us about doing this,&#8221; the site quoted Gilliam.      &#8220;Charles McKeown and I have an idea of what to do, but we haven&#8217;t heard      anything for months. It&#8217;s one I wouldn&#8217;t direct. I&#8217;d work with Charles on      the script and godfather it basically.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> One      stumbling block with dealing with Paragon may have been that the Pythons as a      group were struggling to get back the rights to their film <strong>Life Of Brian<\/strong>.      (They eventually succeed in 1998.) However, with Purvis&#8217; passing in November      of 1997, the project seemed to have quietly faded as well. By the time Bob      McCabe&#8217;s 1999 book <em>Dark Knights and Holy Fools: The Art and Films of      Terry Gilliam<\/em> (Universe Publishing) hit stands, Gilliam seemed reluctant      about reviving the project. &#8220;I think we&#8217;ve got enough funny stuff in there,      but there&#8217;s this slight feeling of repetition in how you deal with time. I      know that we made a really, really good film and any follow up is never as      good.&#8221;     (pg 185)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"> <\/span> A February      2001 article at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aintitcool.com\/node\/7995?q=node\/8002\"> Ain&#8217;t It Cool News.com<\/a> speculated that <strong>Time Bandits II <\/strong>was perhaps back      in development. In an August 16th article on the sudden proliferation of      time travel movies being produced in the wake of the just released remake of     <strong>Planet Of The Apes<\/strong>, <em> USA Today<\/em> confirmed that the project was being developed by Universal Studios. While no word was      given on what the plot may be, it&#8217;s safe to assume that if anything from the      original script remained, at least the millennial angle had been dropped by this point.<\/p>\n<p>On November 5, 2001,     <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20130918014738\/http:\/\/www.gadflyonline.com:80\/11-5-01\/ftr-gilliam-interview.html\"> Gadfly Online<\/a> published an interview with Gilliam where he revealed      that a deal had been struck with Hallmark Entertainment. \u201cSo      we [Gilliam and McKeown] wrote <em>Time Bandits<\/em>, these two, two-hour      specials,\u201d he stated. He then dropped a hint about the new project\u2019s      direction, which seemingly has abandoned the original sequel\u2019s      storyline. \u201cKevin is now in his middle-thirties and he&#8217;s got a couple kids.      And life has never been as exciting as it was then. And that&#8217;s where it      starts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The project was confirmed in the British genre magazine SFX\u2019s April 2002. <em> Daily Variety<\/em> columnist Army Archerd re-confirmed the story on April 9,      however describing the project as a four-hour miniseries for the ABC network      with preproduction scheduled to begin in early July and cameras rolling in      August, 2002. Hallmark and its chairman Robert Halmi, Sr. were no strangers      to bringing fantasy epics for television, having produced miniseries as <em> Jason and the Argonauts<\/em>, <em>Merlin<\/em> and <em>Dinotopia<\/em> for      television. (With its $80 million dollar budget, <em>Dinotopia<\/em> was the      biggest production from Hallmark to date. While the initial miniseries did      well, the subsequent <em>Dinotopia<\/em> regular series that was set to premier      in the fall of 2002 was beset with low ratings and was soon cancelled after      only six of the 13 produced episodes aired.)<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, as nothing more has been heard on the project, it appears to      be dead once again. (Calls to Hallmark Entertainment to confirm the      project\u2019s status have not been returned.) For now, ironically, only time      will tell when we will get to return to Gilliam\u2019s delightfully skewed      version of history with its diminutive tour guides.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\">A look at an early attempt to followup on director Terry Gilliam&#8217;s classic fantasy.<\/div>\n<p> <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2003\/10\/01\/script-review-time-bandits-ii\/\" title=\"Script Review TIME BANDITS II\">[click for more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":13342,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[170],"tags":[3611,182,3610],"series":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-13339","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-scriptreview","8":"tag-charles-mckeown","9":"tag-terry-gilliam","10":"tag-time-bandits-ii"},"aioseo_notices":[],"nelio_content":{"autoShareEndMode":"never","automationSources":{"useCustomSentences":false,"customSentences":[]},"efiAlt":"","efiUrl":"","followers":[2],"highlights":[],"isAutoShareEnabled":false,"networkImageIds":[],"permalinkQueryArgs":[],"series":[],"suggestedReferences":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13339","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13339"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13339\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/13342"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13339"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13339"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13339"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=13339"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}