{"id":51986,"date":"2023-11-14T14:34:17","date_gmt":"2023-11-14T19:34:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/?p=51986"},"modified":"2023-11-14T15:55:51","modified_gmt":"2023-11-14T20:55:51","slug":"what-killed-the-marvels","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/11\/14\/what-killed-the-marvels\/","title":{"rendered":"What Killed THE MARVELS?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_51987\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-51987\" style=\"width: 678px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-51987\" src=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/What-Killed-THE-MARVELS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"678\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/What-Killed-THE-MARVELS.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/What-Killed-THE-MARVELS-339x170.jpg 339w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-51987\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image collage via Marvel Studios, Individual Media Outlets and Free Use<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Come on in. Mind the police tape. The body is right over there. Yep,\u00a0<strong>The Marvels<\/strong>. It came into this world with all the hopes and dreams a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie could have, only to get cut down before it even really got started. $47 Million dollars in its opening weekend. The lowest opening weekend of any MCU film. Lower than\u00a0<strong>Ant-Man<\/strong>. Lower than\u00a0<strong>Incredible Hulk<\/strong>. It was dead on arrival. But what killed it? That&#8217;s what I aim to find out. Let&#8217;s round up the usual suspects and see if we can find a culprit&#8211;or culprits&#8211;that did <strong>The Marvels<\/strong> in.<\/p>\n<h2>The Variety Hit-Piece<\/h2>\n<p>A little more than a week before\u00a0<strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>opened, Variety ran a cover story asking <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2023\/film\/features\/marvel-jonathan-majors-problem-the-marvels-reshoots-kang-1235774940\/\">if Marvel is in trouble<\/a>?\u00a0<strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>were a big part of the article. It detailed the behind-the-scenes chaos surrounding the film, noting that the film needed four weeks of reshoots to &#8220;bring coherence to a tangled storyline&#8221; but &#8220;that extra time didn\u2019t necessarily help&#8221; because test screening audiences &#8220;gave the film middling reviews.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The article got play far and wide outside the film industry. We covered it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/11\/03\/its-official-the-mcu-is-in-trouble\/\">here<\/a>. And if you were one to take the Variety piece at face value, then the message you would receive would be &#8220;Stay away.&#8221; I mean. almost every film undergoes reshoots these days to help its story, but Variety framed it as something unique to\u00a0<strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>and a bad thing as well. It&#8217;s as if Variety had a vested interest in seeing the film fail.<\/p>\n<p>Now, pointing the blame at Variety for reporting that the film would be bad wouldn&#8217;t seem right if the film was bad. About that&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>The Film Wasn&#8217;t Good Enough<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_51964\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-51964\" style=\"width: 678px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-51964\" src=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvels.jpg\" alt=\"The Marvels\" width=\"678\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvels.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvels-339x170.jpg 339w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-51964\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image via Marvel Studios.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The film currently stands, as this writing, at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rottentomatoes.com\/m\/the_marvels\">61% Fresh<\/a> over at Rotten Tomatoes. Not the best percentage, and paltry compared to most of the MCU output, but still considered &#8220;Fresh&#8221; by the site and recommended by them. The Tomatometer score is only 2% off from <strong>Thor: Love and Thunder,\u00a0<\/strong>which opened at $144 million last year and way better than this year&#8217;s\u00a0<strong>Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania<\/strong>, which opened at $106 million and only received 46% fresh reviews. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/11\/10\/alternate-take-review-the-marvels\/\">I liked the film<\/a>. So, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/11\/08\/review-the-marvels-an-entertaining-superhero-romp\/\">did Rich<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It might not make sense to you, but bad reviews do not always doom a film nowadays and good reviews do not necessarily make for a hit. Could the good, yet not stellar reviews kept audiences away? Only if you take something else into consideration&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Marvel Fatigue<\/h2>\n<p>When film pundits talk about &#8220;Marvel Fatigue&#8221; they mean that audiences have started to get sick and tired of Marvel films. This theory is blown out of the water by the success of this year&#8217;s\u00a0<strong>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3<\/strong>, a film that audiences were so tired of they spent $845 million worldwide seeing it. However, &#8220;Marvel Fatigue&#8221; could apply if you change what it refers to.<\/p>\n<p>First, the fatigue could be used to describe the feeling fans get with the amount of homework they now have to do to fully enjoy any new Marvel product. The films have come to a problem that the comic books they are based on have been dealing with for while now&#8211;that there is years and years of backstory you need to know to understand what is going on.<\/p>\n<p>At a bare minimum, to get the most out of\u00a0<strong>The Marvels <\/strong>you should have watched <a href=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/series\/ms-marvel\/45BsikoMcOOo\"><strong>Ms. Marvel <\/strong><\/a>(6 50 minute-ish episodes), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/movies\/captain-marvel\/38xJGlLAQy9a\"><strong>Captain Marvel <\/strong><\/a>(2 hours and 4 minutes of film) and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/series\/wandavision\/4SrN28ZjDLwH\"><strong>WandaVision<\/strong><\/a> (9 episodes ranging from 31 minutes to 51 minutes). If you wanted to know more about Nick Fury and S.A.B.E.R<strong>, <\/strong>add <a href=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/movies\/spider-man-far-from-home\/3PtrmOKmcLb4\"><strong>Spider-Man: Far From Home<\/strong><\/a> (2 hours, 9 minutes) and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/movies\/captain-marvel\/38xJGlLAQy9a\"><strong>Secret Invasion <\/strong><\/a>(6 more episodes, ranging from 38 minutes to an hour, give or take) to the list. That&#8217;s about 20 hours of background going back four years. Not bad if you are a hardcore fan and have seen them all already, but the casual viewer might be lost if they haven&#8217;t seen all of them, and just the couple sentence recaps of all those shows and films in <strong>The Marvels<\/strong> might not be enough to bring them up to speed.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_51989\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-51989\" style=\"width: 678px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-51989 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvel-studios-releases-new-trailer-for-the-marvel.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"678\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvel-studios-releases-new-trailer-for-the-marvel.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/marvel-studios-releases-new-trailer-for-the-marvel-339x170.jpg 339w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-51989\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image via Marvel Studios<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Then there&#8217;s the second type of fatigue. Marvel Studios have gotten tired, sloppy and lazy with their MCU output.\u00a0 The quality of the films has gone down over the years.\u00a0 You get the impression that Marvel Studios thought they were invulnerable, that they had built up such a loyal and addicted fanbase that they coast on their good feelings alone. Feige and Marvel Studios ditched the Marvel Creative Committee in 2015, rankling under their notes and suggestions, but the films have suffered since. Right before\u00a0<strong>Avengers: Endgame<\/strong>, one of the last movies the Creative Committee would have had any input on, most of the MCU were in the 85% to 96% range of at Rottem Tomatoes. Since then, most of the MCU output have been in the 60% to 80% range, and lower.<\/p>\n<p>They went from a studio where they put out films of consistent quality to one where films that are more than 90% fresh are few and far between. Audiences have picked up on this, so when Variety says\u00a0<strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>is a mess, they believe them.<\/p>\n<p>But if there is fatigue involved anywhere, it isn&#8217;t exclusively at Marvel&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Comic Book Movie Fatigue<\/h2>\n<p>2023 has been a bad year for comic book films. Warners\/DC Films has put out three films this year, all three have bombed. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the film is good or not.\u00a0<strong>Blue Beetle <\/strong>got fairly good reviews and ended up being a box office bomb. <strong>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem\u00a0<\/strong>did well enough to get a sequel but didn&#8217;t hit the &#8220;three times its budget&#8221; plateau that is the yardstick for success nowadays. The only two films that could be considered unabashed successes are\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/06\/09\/review-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-is-pretty-great-trust-us\/\"><b>Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse <\/b><\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/05\/03\/review-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3\/\"><strong>Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3<\/strong><\/a>, which also happen to be the two best comic book films of the year.<\/p>\n<p>Years and years of substandard comic book film content, mainly from DC, has created a poison pool which seems to have sucked the Marvel Studios films in. It&#8217;s not that audiences are tired of comic book films. It&#8217;s that they are tired of bad comic book movies and have become more discerning on how they spend their money. Of course, we have to discuss another way that audiences are spending their money&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>The Pandemic Has Changed the Way We Go to the Movies<\/h2>\n<p>Movies studios, as a mass, are stupid. The executives and producers and powers-that-be think they are geniuses, but they are all, on whole, quite dumb. These are the people that thought that actors would accept a contract that allowed them to be replaced by AI, thought a concert film starring a global phenom would make no money, and also think that shortening the time a films hits streaming after its theatrical release wouldn&#8217;t affect box office grosses.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_51968\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-51968\" style=\"width: 678px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-51968\" src=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/kamala-khan-ms-marvel.jpg\" alt=\"Ms Marvel\" width=\"678\" height=\"340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/kamala-khan-ms-marvel.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/kamala-khan-ms-marvel-339x170.jpg 339w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-51968\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image via Marvel Studios<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The pandemic trained audiences that watching a film in the comfort of their own homes can be just as satisfying as watching it in a theater. And with the Coronavirus still being an ongoing concern, although one that is thankfully managed well, people don&#8217;t feel the desire to pack shoulder to shoulder into a theater to see the big releases anymore, especially since the film will be hitting streaming in a matter of a few months.<\/p>\n<p>Back before the pandemic, a film with mixed reviews like\u00a0<strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>might have a big weekend from people afraid of missing out. But that FOMO has been replaced by a fear of getting sick. And you have to have a special film to get the people out to theaters on opening weekend, or at all.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8220;Female Films Don&#8217;t Sell&#8221;<\/h2>\n<p>There are a whole lot of members of the He-Man Women Haters Club, the all too vocal minority who want their genre films to be starring men, have those men be straight, and preferably be white, who are doing a happy dance over <strong>The Marvels<\/strong>&#8216; failure. These people have come out of the woodwork saying that <strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>failed because it was written, directed and starred women. That the film was bad because women were involved in it, pure and simple. And they\u00a0 are doing a victory lap over the film tanking like it somehow proves their twisted worldview.<\/p>\n<p>This is easy to discredit. The number one film of the year is <strong>Barbie<\/strong>. When the year is over, it still will be\u00a0<strong>Barbie<\/strong>. This is a &#8220;female film&#8221; that sold, even after those misogynistic haters did everything they could do to stop it. The idea that somehow people stayed away from <strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>because it was female driven but went to <strong>Barbie\u00a0<\/strong>in spite of it is absurd.<\/p>\n<h2>And the killer is?<\/h2>\n<p>Picking just one reason why <strong>The Marvels\u00a0<\/strong>failed will get you nowhere. It was a mix of reasons. In my opinion, the bad press before the release and the mixed reviews had a major part of doing the film in. But it might have found a bigger audience if the diminishing returns of the recent MCU films didn&#8217;t encourage fans to believe that bad press and made the film one they were unwilling to risk seeing opening weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Is this a problem Marvel Studios can fix? Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Will they? We&#8217;ll see.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\">THE MARVELS was dead on arrival. Let&#8217;s investigate what killed it. <\/div>\n<p> <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/2023\/11\/14\/what-killed-the-marvels\/\" title=\"What Killed THE MARVELS?\">[click for more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":51987,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3185,1695],"tags":[11523,4406,8961,11561,11082],"series":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-51986","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-featured-stories","8":"category-features","9":"tag-ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania","10":"tag-guardians-of-the-galaxy","11":"tag-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3","12":"tag-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse","13":"tag-the-marvels"},"aioseo_notices":[],"nelio_content":{"autoShareEndMode":"never","automationSources":{"useCustomSentences":false,"customSentences":[]},"efiAlt":"","efiUrl":"","followers":[4],"highlights":[],"isAutoShareEnabled":false,"networkImageIds":[],"permalinkQueryArgs":[],"series":[],"suggestedReferences":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51986","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=51986"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51986\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/51987"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=51986"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=51986"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=51986"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.filmbuffonline.com\/FBOLNewsreel\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=51986"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}